In the beginning, maybe, but - they haven't covered themselves with glory. As many disgraced Templars went to Corypheus as did maleficarum. ( A beat, as it occurs to her the terminology is likely unfamiliar to him- ) Naughty mages. Very naughty mages.

( More along the lines of the sort of Lucifer-worshiping witchcraft he's envisioning, probably, only still with less Lucifer. )

As many Templars are responsible for death and destruction and making the roads unsafe and the people frightened. They broke with the Chantry, they have no mandate or proper leadership. ( A shake of her head; ) Nobody looks like a hero any more.